Mr. Michaelis. That is correct.

Mr. Ball. And all of these records are under your control, are they?

Mr. Michaelis. Well, not particularly at that time because my actual supervision of the Seaport Traders, Inc., activities started later during the year. I mean in September and October, when the girl in charge left.

Mr. Ball. At least in November you were in charge and in possession of all of the records of the Seaport Traders?

Mr. Michaelis. That is correct.

Mr. Ball. You have no personal knowledge, then, of the transaction by which the gun was shipped and sold?

Mr. Michaelis. Not prior to the first investigation.

Mr. Ball. But you are providing me with records which were under your control as of November 1963?

Mr. Michaelis. Yes; correct.

Mr. Ball. Now, can you tell me who would have actually received the mail order through the mail and who would have filled the order and shipped it? Do you know what person would have done this?