Mr. Truly. Yes; I saw two guns on November 20.

Mr. Ball. Whose guns were they?

Mr. Truly. They belonged to Mr. Warren Caster.

Mr. Ball. Now, before inquiring into the circumstances of seeing two guns that belonged to Mr. Warren Caster on November 20, 1963, I'll ask you whether or not you ever at anytime before that time or after that time saw guns in the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Mr. Truly. Never before.

Mr. Ball. Never before, and between that date Wednesday, November 20, and Friday, November 22, did you ever see any guns in the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Mr. Truly. I did see guns in there after the assassination.

Mr. Ball. That is, you saw guns of police officers?

Mr. Truly. Of the police officers.

Mr. Ball. Carried by police officers?