Mr. Ball. Tell me about how many minutes you think it was from the time you obtained the address of Lee Oswald until you told Captain Fritz the name and address?

Mr. Truly. I think it was immediately.

Mr. Ball. Immediately?

Mr. Truly. Immediately, after I called to the warehouse and got his name and address in Irving, I turned around and walked over and told Captain Fritz at that time.

Mr. Ball. Chief Lumpkin?

Mr. Truly. Yes; Chief Lumpkin.

Mr. Ball. Yes; Chief Lumpkin.

Mr. Truly. And I remember Chief Lumpkin talking to two or three officers and I stepped back and he went ahead and told them a few things—it could have been 2 or 3 or 4 minutes.

Mr. Ball. Not over that?

Mr. Truly. I don't believe so, and then he came to me and said, "All right, Mr. Truly, let's go up and see Captain Fritz and tell him this."