Mr. Ball. In that office, though, Truly's office, how many were there?

Mr. Caster. We weren't in Mr. Truly's immediate office, we were just there over the counter.

Mr. Ball. In the warehouse?

Mr. Caster. We were there in the hall—just right there over the counter in front of the warehouse; that's right.

Mr. Ball. And did you take the guns out of the carton?

Mr. Caster. Yes; I did. They were removed from the carton.

Mr. Ball. Did you handle them?

Mr. Caster. Yes; I did.

Mr. Ball. Did anybody else handle the guns?

Mr. Caster. Mr. Truly handled them and I'm not sure whether Mr. Shelley had the guns in his hands or not; I'm not positive.