Mr. Piper. No, sir.

Mr. Ball. They weren't the first ones to come down?

Mr. Piper. Yes; and when the elevators come down—I really don't know who brought the elevators down, but I know nobody ever come down the steps.

Mr. Ball. Did you ever see Vicki Adams come down the steps?

Mr. Piper. No, sir; I don't know about that, if she said she did, it was after I got over here and walked over to the back door.

Mr. Ball. Did Vicki Adams come down before Truly and the man went up the steps?

Mr. Piper. No, sir, no, sir; she didn't do it.

Mr. Ball. Did you at anytime after the shooting miss Lee Oswald—did you notice he wasn't around?

Mr. Piper. No, sir; I didn't notice it until the lineup. You know, I just figured all the people was there.

Mr. Ball. You did notice it at the lineup, did you?