Mr. Ball. And did you ever see them again?
Mr. Shelley. No, sir.
Mr. Ball. Had you ever seen any guns in that building before that date?
Mr. Shelley. No, sir.
Mr. Ball. Did you ever see any guns in that building between that date and the time the President was shot?
Mr. Shelley. No, sir.
Mr. Ball. On November 22, 1963, the day the President was shot, when is the last time you saw Oswald?
Mr. Shelley. It was 10 or 15 minutes before 12.
Mr. Ball. Where?
Mr. Shelley. On the first floor over near the telephone.