Mr. Shields. I was there—yes; I was there.

Mr. Ball. Approximately what time?

Mr. Shields. That was around 5 to 12—that would be to 5 after 12.

Mr. Ball. What about Givens?

Mr. Shields. He was there at noon after he had eaten his lunch, I mean, he come on up there.

Mr. Ball. Did you see the President's motorcade?

Mr. Shields. I sure did.

Mr. Ball. Where was it when you saw it?

Mr. Shields. I was just standing right around there at Mullendorf's Cafe.

Mr. Ball. At what address?