Mr. Ball. What?

Mr. Guinyard. Well, this was when Oswald shot the policeman.

Mr. Ball. Tell me what you heard—I just want to know what you were doing and what you heard?

Mr. Guinyard. Well, he was about—I guess——

Mr. Ball. Now, wait a minute, were you polishing cars when you heard something?

Mr. Guinyard. When I heard a shot.

Mr. Ball. You heard a noise?

Mr. Guinyard. Yes.

Mr. Ball. And it sounded like shots?

Mr. Guinyard. Yes.