Mr. Specter. Do you recall at approximately what time the Presidential party arrived at Love Field, Tex.—Love Field, Dallas, Tex.?
Mr. O'Donnell. I would think it would be around 11, 11:15. We were on time. We always allowed a few minutes at the airport, because he always shook hands with the crowd. So we left—my recollection is that we departed from Love Field approximately according to the schedule.
Mr. Specter. What were President Kennedy's activities at Love Field?
Mr. O'Donnell. He had no scheduled activities. It was a matter of assembling the motorcade. He got off Air Force 1, and he went over to the crowd that was gathered around the rail, shook hands, went up and down.
Mr. Specter. What type of a crowd was it with respect to size?
Mr. O'Donnell. It was a large crowd.
Mr. Specter. Would you tell us how the motorcade was constituted with respect to the general number of the cars and the way they were lined up, if you recall, please?
Mr. O'Donnell. Well, I can't go more than—I got into the second car, and I didn't really look behind me. There was some controversy as to what Congressman sat in what car. We had a lot of Congressmen with us and a lot of dignitaries, and there was a lot of juggling around, which Mr. O'Brien was more involved with than I was, as to where Senator Yarborough and the Vice President and the Congressman sat. But it was a lengthy motorcade, more lengthy than normal. We always tried to keep them down as much as possible. But because of the number of Congressmen and the dignitaries involved.
Mr. Specter. How many cars were there ahead of yours?
Mr. O'Donnell. Well, I think there was a scout car, which was the lead, the President's vehicle, and I was in the car right behind him, in the Secret Service followup car.