Mr. Specter. How many agents were there in front of you?

Mr. O'Donnell. Well, there were the normal two or sometimes three in the front seat. I would not be clear as to how many there were. I would think there were about—just guessing—seven or eight agents in the car. Some on the running board, some seated, depending on the speed of the motorcade, or the activity.

Mr. Specter. Was there a front seat in the car, immediately ahead of you?

Mr. O'Donnell. Yes.

Mr. Specter. And was that occupied by Secret Service agents?

Mr. O'Donnell. It was.

Mr. Specter. And how about immediately to your rear? Was there a rear seat?

Mr. O'Donnell. There was a rear seat. There were agents in that—again depending on the speed of the motorcade they were either on the running board, or as it slows up and the crowds got larger the agents would get on the running board. But as it moved along rather rapidly, as it did on the way in, they were seated most of the time.

Mr. Specter. Do you recall whether or not the President's automobile made any stops en route from the airport into the downtown area?

Mr. O'Donnell. I don't recollect, clearly. I would be surprised if it did not. But I don't have any clear recollection.