Mr. O'Donnell. To the best of my recollection.

Mr. Specter. What did you do next, then?

Mr. O'Donnell. Next after I left the Vice President, I went back to Mrs. Kennedy. On the way through the lobby I noted the newspapermen were clamoring for information. I met Kilduff. He said, "Should we announce it?" And I said I think that is a decision that can only be made by the President "You better ask him." So that was the last I saw of Kilduff.

Mr. Specter. Who is Kilduff?

Mr. O'Donnell. He is the assistant press secretary.

Mr. Specter. Malcolm Kilduff?

Mr. O'Donnell. Malcolm Kilduff.

I then went back to Mrs. Kennedy, who was in a very understandably distraught condition. It was my opinion—I tried to in some way imply that she might leave and come with us, at least to get her out of that room. She was covered with blood.

Mr. Specter. Which room was she in then?

Mr. O'Donnell. She was in the same room. She had not moved. She was sitting near the door.