Mr. O'Brien. Yes; Mr. O'Donnell was responsible for the handling of the specifics of trips. He would engage in discussions with the President and projections of possible trips of one sort or another. In his role as Appointments Secretary, of course, he was constantly discussing with the President invitations of all kinds that came across his desk.

The Vice President had expressed an interest for some time in a possible trip to Texas.

Mr. Adams. Had he expressed that interest to you?

Mr. O'Brien. I don't recall specifically. It became generally understood in our discussions that he was interested, the President was interested, Mr. O'Donnell was charged with the responsibility of maintaining a day to day relationship in this area.

Mr. Adams. At that time, what was your official title?

Mr. O'Brien. Special Assistant to the President for Congressional Relations.

Mr. Adams. Now——

Mr. O'Brien. A trip of this nature, as many trips within the United States, would involve the inclusion of Members of Congress, appropriate members of the delegation, and what-have-you. So that would be pretty much my involvement in any arrangements for a trip of this nature.

Mr. Adams. To put it another way, you did not yourself have the responsibility for the specific planning?

Mr. O'Brien. Not at all.