Mr. O'Brien. The coffin was wheeled into the emergency room. At that point, a man arrived on the scene who, I assume, was the coroner, or someone representing the coroner's office. I do not know his name. And he stated that the President could not be taken from the hospital.
Mr. Adams. Was this in Mrs. Kennedy's presence?
Mr. O'Brien. I recall this conversation took place just outside those swinging doors with the glass panels. And I would—I believe, therefore, that she did not hear this conversation.
Mr. Adams. Now, at the time the coffin was wheeled into the emergency room, what did Mrs. Kennedy do? Did she enter at that time, or at any time, so far as you recall?
Mr. O'Brien. My recollection is that she did enter the room, but I don't recall it was at that time, and I am not sure what specific time.
Mr. Adams. Well, going back to this official who said the body could not be removed—you were present at that time with Mr. O'Donnell and Mr. Powers?
Mr. O'Brien. Yes.
Mr. Adams. And what happened with respect to that discussion?
Mr. O'Brien. Well, Dr. Burkley, the President's physician, entered into that discussion. And as I recall he and this official went into a little room just outside these doors and carried on further discussion that seemed to involve members of the hospital staff and others. And the discussion went on for a period of several minutes. Burkley—Dr. Burkley was quite exercised. It was apparent that this fellow was not going to—he was going to be adamant in his position. And very soon another official arrived on the scene that was described to me as a judge.
Mr. Adams. Does the name Brown refresh your recollection?