Mr. Hubert. Of course you have seen his pictures?

Mrs. Cabell. Since; but I had never seen him before.

Mr. Hubert. Did you see him at any place that you went in the hospital, in front of the hospital, or about the hospital on that day?

Mrs. Cabell. No.

Mr. Hubert. In order to know where you were, to exclude your seeing him there, would you tell us just what places you were?

Mrs. Cabell. In the hospital?

Mr. Hubert. Were you out there for some time?

Mrs. Cabell. There came a time when it was necessary for me to find a ladies' room. I walked up to one of the many police officers at the door and I said, Officer, I am Mrs. Earle Cabell. He said, "Yes, Mrs. Cabell, I know." I have no idea which officer it was. I said, "It is necessary for me to go into the ladies' room. Can you get me in?" He said, "I can try." He had quite a good deal of trouble getting me in and identifying me. They did not let me go in until a nurse's aid was brought to the door. They did not let me stay on the first floor where the emergency section was. They took me to the left. This nurse's aid took me to the left with the police officer following, and we crossed the cafeteria and went over toward the front of the building. The nurse's aid went into the ladies' room with me. The policeman stood at the door. We went back the same way.

Mr. Hubert. Tell me who was guarding the front door so that there was some difficulty getting you in.

Mrs. Cabell. I do not know. An elderly man in shirt sleeves, that I remember. I assume he was a part of the hospital personnel. I don't really know that to be true.