Mr. Smith. Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. From that position, could you have observed the windows on the side of the Texas School Book Depository Building room which the shots were fired?

Mr. Smith. Yes, sir; I could see some of the windows. I couldn't see them all, but I was pretty busy getting traffic held up, and I must admit I had my back to the Texas School Book Depository Building.

Mr. Liebeler. Because you were facing traffic that was coming down Elm Street toward the triple underpass toward the intersection of Houston Street?

Mr. Smith. Right.

Mr. Liebeler. So you had no opportunity to scan the windows of the Texas School Book Depository Building at all?

Mr. Smith. No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. And you did not scan the building?

Mr. Smith. No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. Now did you notice anything extraordinary in the crowd as far as a crowd control is concerned? Did you have any problems in that connection, or was it just a matter of holding up the traffic?