Mr. Liebeler. Because you had actually helped arrest Oswald at the Texas Theatre?

Mr. Walthers. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. And what time was it approximately, would you be able to give us that?

Mr. Walthers. Oh, man—I couldn't tell you; I'm sorry.

Mr. Liebeler. Oswald was arrested about what time—it must have been around close to 2 o'clock or 1:30?

Mr. Walthers. It was between 1:30 and 2 o'clock. This wasn't his getting off time, I remember him saying he had taken off and he had worked at Bell Helicopter.

Mr. Liebeler. It's perfectly possible, however, that he could have heard about Oswald having been arrested in connection with the Officer Tippit shooting?

Mr. Walthers. But he didn't say anything about that when he came in.

Mr. Liebeler. What did he say?

Mr. Walthers. I didn't ask him, of course, if he knew he had been arrested. I asked him if he knew Oswald and he said, "Yes"; he had known him. We were standing, I remember, on each side of the ironing board when I talked to him and he said "Yes," he had known him and I said, "How does the guy think, what is he, what does he do?" He said, "He's a Communist. He is very communistic minded. He believes in it." And he says, "He used to try to convince me it was a good thing," and he says, "I don't believe in it." And our conversation didn't go too far. It was just a matter of talk about Oswald and what he had to say about him being a Communist.