Mr. Walthers. Never.
Mr. Liebeler. Are you sure that what you saw there on the curb was a ricochet mark or could you clearly identify that in your own mind?
Mr. Walthers. Yes; it was a fresh ricochet mark. I have seen them and I noticed it for the next 2 or 3 days as it got grayer and grayer and grayer as it aged.
Mr. Liebeler. What curb was it on?
Mr. Walthers. It would be on the south Main Street curb—it would be on the south side of Main.
Mr. Liebeler. Now, looking at Commission Exhibit No. 354 here and I am looking at—looking specifically at spot No. 9 on that exhibit, it would have been directly east up Main Street on the north curb at No. 9, is that right?
Mr. Walthers. Yes, and about—I could step this off here—just about this distance from the underpass on the curb.
Mr. Liebeler. About 12 or 15 feet or something like that?
Mr. Walthers. I imagine about 10 or 11 feet.
Mr. Liebeler. Now, here's a picture that has been marked Tague Exhibit No. 1 and I have never even been able to figure out which way it is supposed to be looked at, but it purports to be a picture of a ricochet mark on this curb down there, does that look anything like what you saw down there?