Hutson was the one that was behind him and was pulling him backward, off balance. He was probably, as near as I could determine from the position, was probably the second officer to him.
In other words, McDonald made the initial contact, and then Hutson and then probably Walker and Hawkins with Walker, and then Hawkins, in that order, getting into the scuffle attempting to subdue him and keep him from using the gun.
Mr. Belin. What did you reply to this question?
Mr. Hill. I told him no. Because apparently this had happened in the interim from the time of the first yell until I got there, and with the scuffling of feet, unless you would be right at it, I don't know that you would hear it.
Mr. Belin. Did you hit the suspect at all?
Mr. Hill. No; I did not.
Mr. Belin. Did anyone else hit the suspect?
Mr. Hill. No one that I know of. When we got him subdued, he had a small laceration on the left eyebrow, and what appeared to be a bruise on the upper-left eyebrow and down along his check, but an actual lick, to see this done, I did not see.
Mr. Belin. Did you hear any police officer make any remark such as "Kill a policeman, will you," or something along that line?
Mr. Hill. No, sir; not at this point I didn't. There was a—you want——