Mr. Liebeler. So, that you think you were standing somewhere in the back left-hand part of this picture where the steps come down off of the concrete structure there?

Mr. Hudson. Yes; this was taken at the present time—it happened—this picture was?

Mr. Liebeler. Yes; this is an actual picture of the motorcade itself; yes, sir. Let me suggest that the pictures are taken from different angles, referring to photograph No. 18 of Commission Exhibit No. 875—there is a little concrete stand here in the very right-hand side of the picture.

Mr. Hudson. That's just right along in here.

Mr. Liebeler. That's right, and that appears in Hudson Exhibit No. 1, immediately to the right of the sign that says, "Stemmons Freeway, keep right." does it not?

Mr. Hudson. Yes; those steps are right along there between that concrete—the end of that concrete wall right there and that elm tree come between them—no, not an elm but that's a live oak tree—that's a live oak tree right there.

Mr. Liebeler. And that's right off of the end of this concrete embankment there, there's a live oak tree there.

Mr. Hudson. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Can you see yourself in that picture anywhere, can you make yourself out?

Mr. Hudson. No, sir; I can't, unless it is one of these two men right here—I can't tell—if I had that picture that was taken in the Times Herald paper—I can show you myself in it.