Mr. Liebeler. And it is just about to pass a sign that says, "Stemmons Freeway, keep right." Do you think that the President could have been hit when he was that far back up Elm Street?

Mr. Hudson. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. You do think that?

Mr. Hudson. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. And you had already heard one shot when you saw the President get hit in the head?

Mr. Hudson. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. And you heard another shot after that time?

Mr. Hudson. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Do you think, looking at Hudson Exhibit No. 1, do you think that that is about the place where the President got hit in the head, or was it further back up on Elm or was it further down—if so—about where was it?

Mr. Hudson. That's somewhere pretty close.