Mr. Zapruder. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. You can now see the President for the first time.

Mr. Zapruder. Yes; that's the President.

Mr. Liebeler. The President appears to have his hand up by his throat as he is just coming from behind the sign.

Mr. Zapruder. Yes; it looks like he was hit—it seems—there—somewhere behind the sign. You see, he is still sitting upright.

Mr. Liebeler. Yes; he's sitting up and holding his hand up.

Mr. Zapruder. Do we have the sequence—the next frames?

Mr. Liebeler. Yes; it will be No. 227 and his hand comes up even more and he starts to move a little to his left.

Mr. Zapruder. Apparently. And they started speeding the car then to—but he is still sitting up here. Is that still the President here?

Mr. Liebeler. Yes; in picture No. 228—he still appears to have his hand up and in No. 229 it's even more pronounced.