Mr. Griffin. These were grade crossings that you are talking about?
Captain Lawrence. Grade crossing—yes.
Mr. Griffin. At the time of your first meeting with Chief Batchelor were you given any special instructions about the protection of the President?
Captain Lawrence. None.
Mr. Griffin. When was the next time you received some instructions from one of your superiors?
Captain Lawrence. The next time was, to the best of my knowledge, the motorcade assignments—possibly 2 days before the President arrived—I asked how we would escort this motorcade.
Mr. Griffin. And with whom did you discuss that?
Captain Lawrence. Chief Lunday and Chief Batchelor.
Mr. Griffin. Was anybody from the Secret Service present at that time?
Captain Lawrence. Not at that time—no.