Mr. Ball. Did anyone have ahold of him at that time?
Mr. Gibson. I don't think so.
Mr. Ball. Did you see any officer grab hold of Oswald?
Mr. Gibson. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Which one—can you describe where he was and what he did—just tell us in your own words what you saw him do?
Mr. Gibson. Well, just like—I guess you have heard this a lot of times—the gun misfired—it clicked and about the same time there was one police officer that positively had him.
Mr. Ball. What do you mean—"had him"?
Mr. Gibson. Well, I mean he grabbed ahold of him.
Mr. Ball. Did he grab ahold of him before you heard the click or afterwards?
Mr. Gibson. Gee, that's a question that's kind of hard to answer because I would say possibly seconds before or a second—maybe at the precise time the gun clicked. It happened pretty fast and like I say, I just went in to eat a hot-dog for lunch and I wasn't expecting any of this.