Mr. Ball. But would you think he stood up first before any police officer got to him? Or that near him?
Mr. Gibson. He had to, because they took him from a standing position to the floor and he was standing up.
Mr. Ball. Did you see them before they came up to him?
Mr. Gibson. Yes; I was watching them there, I was just standing in the corner—as I said, just looking around the corner—there is a chance you can see in the corner and I was looking around it and as I said, I don't know whether he got up and whirled around or what he did, but when I saw him he was facing the police with a gun in his hand.
Mr. Ball. The first you saw him he was standing?
Mr. Gibson. He was standing.
Mr. Ball. And you didn't hear him say anything except on his way out?
Mr. Gibson. Except on his way out—is the only thing I heard him say.
Mr. Ball. This will be written up and you can come down and sign it if you want to, or you can waive your signature. What would you like to do?
Mr. Gibson. Well, I said it, I might as well sign it.