Mr. Ball. We had a witness here Thursday, a patron of the theatre at the time, who said that at the time the officers were struggling with Oswald he saw another officer who had a shotgun take the shotgun and grab it by the muzzle and strike Oswald in the back with the butt of the shotgun; did you see that?

Mr. Westbrook. No, sir; I didn't see that. It could have happened without me seeing it because half of my view was blocked from the struggle.

Mr. Ball. Did anybody ever tell you that story before?

Mr. Westbrook. That's the first time I've heard that.

Mr. Ball. That's the first time you have ever heard it?

Mr. Westbrook. That's the first time I have ever heard any shotgun was in play.

Mr. Ball. Did any of the men who were approaching Oswald or who approached Oswald have a gun in their hand?

Mr. Westbrook. I didn't see a gun, Mr. Ball; no, sir.

Mr. Ball. Did you see any men with shotguns in the theatre?

Mr. Westbrook. In the theatre—I didn't.