Mr. Ball. Did you have any microphones in there to record the conversation?

Mr. Boyd. No, sir.

Mr. Ball. Do you as a practice record the interrogations of your prisoners?

Mr. Boyd. No, sir; we don't.

Mr. Ball. How long did this take—how long was he questioned at this time?

Mr. Boyd. Let me see—we took him down to the first showup right after 4 o'clock, I think I have the exact time here—4:05 is when we left.

Mr. Ball. Was he in Captain Fritz' office from the time you took him in there—what time was that?

Mr. Boyd. At 2:15–2:20.

Mr. Ball. From 2:20 until 4 o'clock?

Mr. Boyd. Yes, sir.