Mr. Ball. Who were the men in this showup?
Mr. Boyd. Well, one of them's names was—we call him Bill Perry, his name is William E. Perry, he's a police officer and he was No. 1; and we had Lee Oswald, was No. 2; and R. L. Clark was No. 3; and Don Ables was No. 4.
Mr. Ball. The No. 4 man was a clerk there in the jail, was he?
Mr. Boyd. I believe he was a clerk down in the jail office.
Mr. Ball. Is it usual to have police officers show up with prisoners?
Mr. Boyd. Well, I have seen them in there before—I mean—it isn't done real often.
Mr. Ball. It's unusual to use officers to showup with prisoners?
Mr. Boyd. Well, I would say so, but I know that there has been officers.
Mr. Ball. Is that usual to use Don Ables, the clerk, in a showup?
Mr. Boyd. No, sir.