Mr. Ball. And Don Ables is the fourth man?

Mr. Boyd. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. He was the No. 4 man in the first two shows, too?

Mr. Boyd. This shows him to be 5' 9", 165 pounds.

Mr. Ball. What do you have Oswald down for?

Mr. Boyd. I don't have his description down, but I think he told me he was 5' and 8" or 9" and weighed 140-something pounds—I believe that is what he told me.

Mr. Ball. Do you know what happened to Borchgardt?

Mr. Boyd. No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Ball. Or to Brazel?

Mr. Boyd. No, sir.