Mr. Sims. Captain Fritz, Boyd, and I.

Mr. Ball. Where did you go?

Mr. Sims. We went directly to the elevator.

Mr. Ball. Which elevator?

Mr. Sims. The main passenger elevator.

Mr. Ball. It was a freight elevator, wasn't it?

Mr. Sims. No, sir; I think the passenger elevator goes to about the third floor and then the freight elevator takes over.

Mr. Ball. You went up in the passenger elevator in the front of the building?

Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. And you went as far as it could go, did you?