Mr. Sims. It was after he had been in Captain Fritz' office; yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. And it was in the interrogation room?

Mr. Sims. I—well, I don't know—I have talked to him both places, and I don't know—I know he wouldn't talk at all about the assassination of the President or of Officer Tippit, but he would talk about his life in Russia and some things over here and about his family and things.

Mr. Ball. Now, you say he wouldn't talk about the assassination of the President, what do you mean?

Mr. Sims. Well, he would just deny knowledge of it.

Mr. Ball. And you say he wouldn't talk about Officer Tippit's death, what do you mean by that; what would he say, if anything?

Mr. Sims. Well, he would make some remark and he just wouldn't talk about it.

Mr. Ball. Well, did he ever deny that he had anything to do with it?

Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. He did?