Mr. Sims. They are just a regular chair—with a long desk, something like this here.
Mr. Ball. You say you took Oswald down with a couple of the officers?
Mr. Sims. Yes, sir; two of the officers went with us—Perry and Clark.
Mr. Ball. And they are Dallas Police Department officers, are they?
Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. And why did you have to have them come down with you?
Mr. Sims. I don't know why they did.
Mr. Ball. Who instructed them to go with you?
Mr. Sims. I don't know that. I know they said they were there for the showup so we went with them.
Mr. Ball. During the showup, were they part of the showup?