Mr. Ball. Brazel is in the penitentiary?

Mr. Sims. I believe so—I'm not positive.

Mr. Ball. Who was No. 4?

Mr. Sims. No. 4 was Don Ables.

Mr. Ball. That's the jail clerk?

Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. Do you remember how these men were dressed?

Mr. Sims. No, sir; I don't, I don't remember how they were dressed.

Mr. Ball. Did they have coats on?

Mr. Sims. I don't remember if they had coats on or not.