Mr. Ball. Now, during this time, or sometime during this period—sometime between these three showups, you searched Oswald, didn't you?
Mr. Sims. The first one; yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. And that was what time?
Mr. Sims. It was 4:05, I believe, but I will have to check my record here and see [checking his record referred to].
Mr. Ball. That was after the second showup?
Mr. Sims. No, sir; the first one.
Mr. Ball. After the first showup?
Mr. Sims. It was before the first showup.
Mr. Ball. It was before the first showup—the 4:05?
Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.