Mr. Ball. I know, but I want to know about you—did you look at the transfer?
Mr. Sims. Yes, sir; I looked at it.
Mr. Ball. Did you look at the date and the time that it was punched on the transfer?
Mr. Sims. I don't remember if I did or not. I'm sure I looked at it but I don't remember.
Mr. Ball. You say it was shown to a busdriver and he made some remarks about it; were you there when it was shown to the busdriver?
Mr. Sims. No, sir.
Mr. Ball. So, you are just telling me what some other officer told you?
Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. All right.
Mr. Sims. I didn't see actually the busdriver, I don't believe, identify his transfer.