Mr. Stern. But he was never complaining about his treatment?
Mr. Sims. Oh, he complained two or three times—I don't know what it was about—about not having a lawyer or something. He said he wanted a lawyer, and things of that nature.
Mr. Stern. But not about his physical treatment?
Mr. Sims. No; I believe he told us that—he was talking about his eye, and he told us that he deserved to get hit in the eye—I believe he said he deserved being hit in the eye.
Mr. Stern. Why was that?
Mr. Sims. Because the officer had a right to do that—I believe that's what he told us.
Mr. Stern. What about obtaining a lawyer, what did he say about that?
Mr. Sims. He said he wanted to obtain a lawyer. He named some lawyer up in New York.
Mr. Stern. He said that to you or to Captain Fritz in your presence?
Mr. Sims. Well, I heard it—I don't know whether he said it to me—whether he told it to Captain Fritz or he may have told it to me.