Mr. Stern. Because of the——

Mr. Sims. Photographers and newsmen.

Mr. Stern. Were there television cameras in the corridor at that time?

Mr. Sims. Yes.

Mr. Stern. Do you know when they were brought in, were you present when they were installed?

Mr. Sims. No; I don't know when they were installed.

Mr. Stern. As I understand it, you had to bring Oswald through part of this crowd of newspapermen to get him to the interrogation room, when you brought him to and from?

Mr. Sims. No, sir; the interrogation room was all in room 317, but when we would have to go through the crowd would be to take him to a showup, and the next day when we would bring him from the jail to Captain Fritz' office, it would be a matter of 20 or 30 feet there in the hall.

Mr. Stern. And in the course of those trips through the crowd, would people try to ask him questions?

Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.