Mr. Belin. At that time the matter came up concerning cartridge case hulls that were found on the southeast corner of the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building on November 22, 1963. Do you remember that he asked about those?

Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin. Just for continuity of the record, would you tell us just how you came to see those hulls?

Mr. Sims. Yes, sir; Captain Fritz, Boyd, and I, my partner, were on the seventh floor, and someone called us to the sixth floor and said the hulls had been found.

So we took the freight elevator, I believe, or the stairs, and went to the sixth floor. Went to the southeast corner and three hulls were laying there by the window on the floor.

Mr. Belin. Did you pick up the hulls at that time?

Mr. Sims. No, sir.

Mr. Belin. What did you do?

Mr. Sims. Waited for the arrival of Lieutenant Day with the crime lab to take pictures of the scene.

Mr. Belin. Do you know who came with Lieutenant Day, if you can remember?