Mr. Ball. Did you shut Oswald up any way—did you do anything to keep his mouth shut?
Mr. Carroll. No, sir.
Mr. Ball. A witness testified yesterday—he said that as Oswald came out of the theatre, that there were two men on each side of him and one man behind him that had his arm underneath his chin so as to tilt his head back and close his mouth; do you remember anything like that?
Mr. Carroll. I don't remember anything like that. I was in front—when we came out of the theatre, I was directly in front of Oswald, and I say "directly"—just almost right in front of him and there were two people, I know, one each side of him had him by his arms, but I did not see anyone holding his mouth or trying to keep his mouth shut.
Mr. Ball. On the way down to the police station, did anyone in the car ask Oswald if he had shot the President?
Mr. Carroll. I don't think—I don't think they asked him if he shot the President. I don't recall asking him if he shot the President. I think most of the conversation was about Tippit at that time.
Mr. Ball. What do you remember as to that conversation about Tippit at the time?
Mr. Carroll. Like—he said he hadn't done anything except, well, he said, "I had a pistol, and that's all I've done—just carry a pistol."
Mr. Ball. Did any one officer state to Oswald that he had killed Tippit?
Mr. Carroll. I don't recall him just coming out openly and saying, "You killed him," or anything like that. Of course, questions were being asked. I don't remember now who was asking them then, but I was driving the car and I was trying to get him from out there down here as fast as we could.