Mr. Turner. When I first came out, I went to work as a carpenter's helper up around Plano there. I worked at that a short while. And then I worked for the Plano Lumber Yard in Richardson, Tex., and I worked there until I came to work for the police department.

Mr. Belin. Were you on duty on November 22, 1963?

Mr. Turner. I was.

Mr. Belin. Did you have anything to do with the motorcade?

Mr. Turner. I did; yes, sir.

Mr. Belin. What was your position?

Mr. Turner. I was riding in the pilot car of the motorcade, possibly 3 minutes in front of the motorcade.

Mr. Belin. Who else was with your car?

Mr. Turner. Chief Lumpkin from our department.

Mr. Belin. Is he an assistant chief of police?