Mr. Ball. What did you say to him or did he say to you?
Mr. Rose. Well, the first thing I asked him was what his name was and he told me it was Hidell.
Mr. Ball. Did he tell you it was Hidell?
Mr. Rose. Yes; he did.
Mr. Ball. He didn't tell you it was Oswald?
Mr. Rose. No; he didn't, not right then—he did later. In a minute—I found two cards—I found a card that said "A. Hidell." And I found another card that said "Lee Oswald" on it, and I asked him which of the two was his correct name. He wouldn't tell me at the time, he just said, "You find out." And then in just a few minutes Captain Fritz came in and he told me to get two men and go to Irving and search his house.
Mr. Ball. Now, when he first came in there—you said that he said his name was "Hidell"?
Mr. Rose. Yes.
Mr. Ball. Was that before you saw the two cards?
Mr. Rose. Yes; it was.