Mr. Ball. What time?
Mr. Perry. 6:30.
Mr. Ball. Take part in any other showups?
Mr. Perry. No, sir.
Mr. Ball. Had you ever taken part in a showup before?
Mr. Perry. Not that I recall.
Mr. Ball. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Ball. Back on the record. Had you ever heard of officers taking part in showups before in your department?
Mr. Perry. Yes, sir.