Mr. Ball. Did he talk to you?

Mr. Perry. No; he talked to somebody else in our bureau.

Mr. Ball. And they relayed the order to you?

Mr. Perry. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. What did you do?

Mr. Perry. We went on up to—Clark and myself went on up to the third floor of the homicide office.

Mr. Ball. Was Oswald there?

Mr. Perry. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. Who else was there?

Mr. Perry. Several different people. Captain Fritz, a lot of homicide detectives and Texas Rangers and several other people that I don't know who they were. I gather law enforcement agencies, but it was, the office was——