Mr. Clark. Oswald.

Mr. Ball. Who was No. 3?

Mr. Clark. Myself.

Mr. Ball. Who was No. 4?

Mr. Clark. Ables.

Mr. Ball. And he stood to your right and faced the audience?

Mr. Clark. No, sir; he stood to my left as I was facing the audience. The audience was looking at him, it would be——

Mr. Ball. He stood on your left?

Mr. Clark. That's right.

Mr. Ball. I see. Ables would be the No. 4 man?