Mr. Ables. I am a civilian employee.
Mr. Ball. Civilian employee? You are not——
Mr. Ables. An actual member of the——
Mr. Ball. An actual member of the department?
Mr. Ables. No, sir.
Mr. Ball. Where were you born and raised?
Mr. Ables. I was born and raised in Hico, Tex.
Mr. Ball. How do you spell that? You probably know it. I don't.
Mr. Ables. [Spelling.] H-i-c-o.
Mr. Ball. [Spelling.] H-i-c-o. Did you go to school there?