Mr. Ables. Myself, Oswald, and two prisoners.

Mr. Ball. Four, again, were there?

Mr. Ables. I believe so.

Mr. Ball. Do you know the names of the prisoners?

Mr Ables. No, sir.

Mr. Ball. I have the names here. Richard Walter Borchgardt. Do you know whether he was there?

Mr Ables. No, sir.

Mr. Ball. Or Ellis Brazel?

Mr. Ables. No, sir.

Mr. Ball. You don't know him?