Mr. Clark. As I recall, between 80 and 90 rubles and he was justifying that on this basis, he said actually it wasn't so bad except you had your housing taken care of and your medical expenses. That's the main things he seemed to count most important but he said that clothing, shoes was very expensive and traveling was extremely expensive.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he tell you that he received any income from any source other than his job?
Mr. Clark. He said that's all he had and he had written to his mother to get money to come back to the States.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he mention receiving money from the Red Cross?
Mr. Clark. No; he did not.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he ever mention to you that he had gone from Minsk to Moscow to talk to the officials at the American Embassy about returning to the United States?
Mr. Clark. No; he did not.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he ever tell you that Marina went from Minsk to Kharkof for a 2- or 3-week vacation after they were married?
Mr. Clark. No; he did not. He said that after they were married that she moved in this apartment with him and said they used to go out and walk around and do some hunting of some kind; I don't know. I didn't pay much attention to him. He said they went out for amusements for walks. I asked what he did and he said there wasn't too much to do, go to dances once in awhile. He indicated to me that Marina had to work up until a very short time before the birth of the child and that she was supposed to go back to work within a month after the birth of the child but by putting in his application to return to the United States somehow or other she delayed in reporting back to work and finally his permit and all to return had arrived and so that they left. She never returned to work after the birth of the child.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember specifically that he mentioned the high cost of transportation?