Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember in any greater detail than you already testified about these hunting trips or any association with firearms?

Mr. Clark. The question of firearms did not come up. He just indicated he and Marina would go out in the fields and walk around. I don't recall whether he said he went hunting. I am not a hunter; it doesn't interest me a bit. If he said he was hunting it probably would not have registered on me.

Mr. Liebeler. He did not indicate any peculiar or strong interest in firearms to you at that time?

Mr. Clark. Not at that time.

Mr. Liebeler. He never indicated that to you at any time?

Mr. Clark. No; not at any time; no, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. Mr. Clark, have you ever engaged in any conversations with any members of the Russian community or heard of any conversations amongst them concerning the question of whether or not Oswald might have been a Russian agent?

Mr. Clark. Most of the Russian group were concerned about Oswald and Marina. It seemed that the older of the Russian group, that is, the ones that had lived in the States the longest period of time and couldn't be considered as "DP's" were less concerned about it than those recent arrivals from Soviet blocs; the ones that were "DP's" just couldn't understand how the Oswalds got out of Russia so easily. The older group said well, they figure that they were of no value to the Russians and they felt it was good riddance and didn't seem to be concerned about it because they felt the American government was keeping the proper surveillance on them and knew of their background. They would not be put in a position where they could do damage so it did not concern the ones that had been here since the revolution as much as the ones that got out recently.

Mr. Liebeler. Most of the opinions of the latter group were based primarily on the difficulties, I suppose, that they themselves had in getting out of Russia, is that correct?

Mr. Clark. Yes; based on the reason the ones—because they had considerable difficulty in getting out of those countries and they felt probably Oswald and Marina got out too easily.