Mrs. Hall. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Did you see her using it?

Mrs. Hall. No; I didn't see her using it, but after that when I brought it, I opened it and saw all this, she had probable difficulty with the stitches, and there is pieces of something in there, and she just sewing on it, and I just closed it and I never did touch it again.

Mr. Liebeler. Did you see any clothes that Marina made with the sewing machine?

Mrs. Hall. She didn't make any clothes. But the clothes that friends of mine gave to her, lots of clothes, she was trying to alter them and things like that.

Mr. Liebeler. Did Marina know how to use the sewing machine?

Mrs. Hall. Yes; I think. She told me she could. I never did see her sewing, but she said she could.

Mr. Liebeler. About the time that Marina lived in your house, did you understand that the Oswalds were having any marital difficulties?

Mrs. Hall. Well, I think she was stubborn, and he was just cruel to her, and they would argue for nothing, just nothing. And he would beat her all the time.

Mr. Liebeler. Beat her?