Mr. Liebeler. Can you tell us how that conversation came up and what was said?
Mrs. Ray. I think she asked me how I came over and I told her. I asked her how did she. I don't think I asked how she met Lee; I just—what did she tell me? Isn't it funny, I don't remember. She might have said something. I don't remember if she did or not. I think I did ask how they met and I cannot quite place where they did meet. Isn't that funny? This is just few weeks ago—me and my brain, but I know they said they went together little while and she fell in love with him.
Mr. Liebeler. Could you tell us what your first name is?
Mrs. Ray. My first name is Valentina.
Mr. Liebeler. You never got the impression that Marina married Oswald just to get out of Russia, did you?
Mrs. Ray. Well, she never said in so many words but I imagine that had a lot to do with it.
Mr. Liebeler. What do you mean when you say you "imagine"?
Mrs. Ray. If you ever lived in Russia, believe you me, you grab first chance get out of there if you halfway smart. After Americans came into Germany I had chance to go back to Russia. I chose to stay in Germany. I was so young when I left but I still know that life in Germany was far superior to Russian. I decided of my own free will not to go back to Russia. I could have very easily but did not want to.
Mr. Liebeler. So, your thought that Marina might have had that in her mind when she married Oswald is based on your own experience?
Mrs. Ray. Yes; in Russia, girl would be more than glad marry an American and come over here. Yes; I base it strictly on my own experience.