Mr. Jenner. You could hear the guns?

Mrs. Voshinin. Yes; I didn't hear them very well—but Igor was at that time at the outskirts of the city and he heard them quite distinctly—the city of Linz. And then we just didn't lose any time leaving Linz. And we took a westerly direction—we didn't care which.

Mr. Jenner. You wanted any direction away from the——

Mrs. Voshinin. Exactly opposite direction away from Russians. Let's put it this way. And that was our direction throughout our life, I'm afraid.

Mr. Jenner. Your direction all your life has been away from the Russians?

Mrs. Voshinin. Yes; away from the Russians.

Mr. Jenner. And you went to where?

Mrs. Voshinin. Well, we came as far as Kempten, Bavaria. And, of course, we were stopped there because we heard that that's as far as you can go without being extensively controlled by Germans. Because, you see, we did not have the permit to leave, or anything. We did not have any permit to leave town—and this we might have been shot for it. Because, before we left town—several days before—Germans made an announcement that whoever leaves will be put to death. But, if we stayed, we would be put to death by Russians—so, what could we lose, you know?

Mr. Jenner. And you arrived in Bavaria—and were you liberated by anybody?

Mrs. Voshinin. That's right—by lots of people. First, I believe it was French Moroccan troops, they were the first who just zoomed through Kempten; and then came American troops.